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Alice--I'm glad that things are going better today. One day at a time.

Aaaah! I'm glad you're having a better day. I've got no clue about the basil.

They picked a fabulous post. It made me cry. I miss Brooklyn (and Manhattan) right down to my bones. And I've been in NJ for almost 3 years, and in spite of myself, I kind of like it here too. Aren't parking lots and left turn arrows the most wonderful inventions ever created?

Congrats on the NPR slot. I'll be listening.

As for the basil, I eat the stuff my Mom grows in her backyard in Brooklyn. :-)

Jersey soil is good for tomatoes and corn - I'm thinking Basil might be a little much for its Sandy Soils.

And a house that's good enough to lick, sounds fabulous? Very Charlie in the Chocolate Factory meets Hansel and Gretel.

did your basil get flowers on it before you used it? sometimes when that happens the basil leaves lose their flavor because they stop producing oils and concentrate on the flowers...I keep pinching the middle section of my basil out so that no flowers bloom...basil can be tough because it needs lots of sun and warmth...good luck with the garden!!

huge Joyce fan here also!

Yeah - once you let basil flower, it gets bland. Pinch off the buds before they flower to keep the zest in.

- M

I LOVE the sound of the new series! Kind of like my series of, "how many seeds can I plant and then kill by neglect!"

At least I can collect. Collecting seeds is fun!

No flowers yet on the basil! None! Maybe it's not mature enough? Or am I just expecting too much?

Oooh, I hate to sound like the voice of well, not doom, but gloom at least. If your house really is old enough to have had lead paint (particularly on its exterior, and that's not so far back in time), have your soil tested.

I live in a lovely urban neighborhood in Pittsburgh, and I know neighbors grow veggies around here. But after we had our soil tested, we figured that we just didn't need to feed the kids lead pesto.

Unless of course you are gardening in containers with "clean" dirt. Then never mind, carry on, and may your basil be tastier. (Try lemon basil? It makes an amazing pesto.)

Yeah, it's a rather large raised container in the backyard. No lead in there.

I can't wait for your flickr stream on Weed or Something Else. I'm no master gardener, but I do enjoy flowers and perennials - maybe I can help!
One thing, though - I don't really know how to access the flickr stream. Help!

It's http://www.flickr.com/photos/finslippy/.

There are loads of varieties of basil. Before you buy and plant it, surreptitiously pinch off a leaf. Crush it, smell it and then eat it. Look for a plant that has the full richness of flavor you're seeking.

Then grow it on the sly for me. A plant doesn't last 1/2 an hour in the outdoors out here. Ground squirrels rip it out just for sport.

Four hours a day? Everyday? What are you doing to do with all of the silence?

the more you water herbs the less flavor they have.

I am glad you're liking it more. Now that it's not raining 24/7, things should seem a bit brighter. I want to get down there and visit you (and bring Sway and fam) this summer. I can tour and pontificate about your garden as if I know what I'm talking about, and won't that be fun for everyone?

Basil needs a lot of sun. And pinch off the flower budlets as soon as they appear.

Hey, congratulations on catching Chris Lydon's eye! That's a wonderful program. Will be listening Thursday night.

I was on that show last year: I sat downstairs in the dark glued to my radio, listening to an actor read my words. I'm embarrassed to admit how thrilled I was.

Basil doesn't grow in little jars with twist-off lids??

Dude! You're on NPR. It's my dream to be on NPR.

Reunion was cool. Except it was especially cool if you were invited to party down on twist cap wine with the class of 1976 at their disco ball where they blew the amps and sang the rest of the music underneath the smoke-wisps emitting from the speaker sets in their disco dresses, like my class was. I don't know what your class did. Maybe they grew basil, and played music to it to see the effects on the taste.

Yay for you! That was a great post. So raw.

Especially without any paragraph breaks. Heh.

About the basil, it could also be too much fertiliser - I always buy organic herbs because the un-organic taste of nothing (organic plants are grown more slowly with less (and natural)fertilisers). I don't know whether you add fertiliser when you water it but try leaving it out if you do. Otherwise, buy a new plant and like the other person says, taste it first :)

Damn I wish there'd been a "Weed or Something Else" encyclopedia when we first moved into this house. I've seen gardener friends fight back tears when they heard my description of that "ratty plant" I just destroyed. So far, that I know of, I've gotten rid of phlox, bleeding heart, blue fescue (hey, it looks like GRASS) and god knows what else. I look forward to the new flicker photos....

Oh rocks, Penelope. Tell us in plain words. What your Agenbite of Inwit is preventing you from saying is Henry's going away opens up space for a bloomin' Boylan. We'll never tell.

I haven't watered the herbs too much, but I did once use fertilizer--before I found out that was a Bad Thing to do. Although I did use gardening soil that contains fertilizer, so, crap. Maybe that's it?

After I posted my Joycean spiel, I started to think it might have been a little, um, I don't know. You know what I mean?

Well, I appreciated it, Anne...

Bland basil: Watering the plants less will help (although it helps more with tomatoes), as will pinching off the newest leaves (somehow this stimulates them to grow more). But alas, you may have to simply to yank out the plants you have, run back to the nursery, & do that surreptitious pinch & taste test before buying more. Some varieties of basil just don't have much flavor. (I've never tried lemon basil but now I think I'll have to.)

I can't help with your basil, I can't even get dirt to grow around here...oh wait, I'm sure there is a logical reason why my dirt is not growing...oh well, congrats and I love your posts, all of them, the happy and the sad

Too much water is the first thing I thought of too. It has rained a lot along the eastern seaboard lately. (?) I would give it a couple of hot sunny days and re-taste. I've been an avid grower of pesto ingredients for the paste few years. I'll taste my basil tonight and let you know if it is zestless.

oops - "grower of pesto ingredients for the past few years".

(I do grow the ingredients for the paste - I like the taste of the paste)

Yep- "Pinch the bud, the flavor will flood."
or the other one I heard once was "Don't let them flower - the flavor will sour."
Congrats! I'm glad you are feeling better about things. Looking forward to your new series!

Is anyone else getting a little warm with all the "pinch the bud" talk in here?

(I keed, I keed!)

Okay, delurking, decloaking, whatever. Alice, you can friggin write your ass off. And so damn funny! I'd like to listen to NPR and all, but it sounds like more fun to read through your archives...you had me at "Pretty Rambo". And hey, unlike everyone else around here from what I can tell, I'm a daddy - not a mommy! Gasp! It's a MAAYUN! And why does a man risk all sorts of ridicule by decloaking on the exalted finslippy blog? Is it because of the speaking of the pinching of the buds? Well, okay, maybe a little - but mostly, it's because you writing is that good. And that funny. So add another voice to the finslippy chorus. Oh, and on the whole basil leaf blandness thing - um, I don't know, I'm a fucking guy. Buy a Chia Herb Garden or something! Great blog. Cheers!

A man! Destroy him, girls!

I'm guessing some wild varment peed on it and neutralized the basil flavor.

I hope you didn't eat it! Oh...um...nevermind.

I've got his arms! Kick him!

Usually I listen to NPR while reading Finslippy and now I'll be...wha? This is all too crazy for me, this world.

Wikipedia entry in the year 2126:
finslippy : (noun) a machine invented by Alice, pre-eminent twenty first century blogger. Used to emasculate any weak-minded, less verbal male who dared delurk on her blog. The original finslippy can now be found in the New Jersey Hall of Fame in the space that used to house Bon Jovi's first guitar, steel horse, and big 80's haircut. Alice later took over for Oprah, and occasionally invited NPR hosts onto her blog for cute "story of the week" segments. Alice made her fortune by mass producing finslippies and distributing them to her fellow mommy bloggers at BlogHer conferences. Men stopped commenting soon thereafter and were later found huddled around Mike Arrington's old TechCrunch BBQ pit in Atherton muttering short grunts of ..."web 2.0"..."wisdom of the crowds" ... "beeyotches"..." basil leaves..."

I too live in New Jersey and my basil has no flavor either. As my 4 year old would say--we match!

Are you okay with Henry starting camp? Our Okapis start camp in less than two weeks (C-12 days to be exact) and I'm...uh... well... a tad bit...um...petrified about how they are going to handle it. Maybe they'll be just fine - maybe they'll never want to speak to us again. Maybe we'll get a phone call from the camp saying our Okapis need to be picked up. Oye, they've never been away from my wife before for any real stretch of time. This is it.

Maybe I should find a garden and see if I can grow basil that tastes like leaves - it might give me something else to focus on, you know?

No no be miserable. I need my daily dose of blog pathos to distract me from my own. JUST kidding. I really am glad you feel better. I do too but I never seem to get nice neighbors, or if they are nice they are drunks with a perpetually barking dog.

Maybe the basil is too young? Maybe the kind you planted? What am I sayin', I dunno nothing about basil except I like it sandwiched between a slice of fresh picked tomato and a slice of mozzerela cheese. That way if the basil is no good, there is back up.

OMG! OpenSource! So, here's something you may not expect: You, and probably everyone else is excited about public radio doing your post, but *I'm* excited that you're plugging OpenSource! My hubs works in public radio (doing technology, blah blah),and OpenSource is one of his projects, and I literally just went screaming into him:

"FINSLIPPY IS TALKING ABOUT OPENSOURCE"

"*My* OpenSource?"

We're public radio nerds. And,it's PRI who produces that, not NPR. They're competitors, kind of. I know, crazy. But they are. And I know, only the nerdiest of public radio nerds would bother to explain that, but it's drilled into me daily, "NPR AND PRI ARE SEPARATE. NPR DOES NOT EQUAL PUBLIC RADIO."

No one said we were cool.

um, I am a less-good person than all of you. In my mind, I imagined you creeping around suburban NJ backyards, looking for the neighbors with "grow lights" and suspiciously mellow friends, and taking pictures of their hedges, which suspiciously resemble marijuana. You'd be a one-woman vice patrol! Like Miss Marple! or Angela Lansbury on "Murder She Wrote", but.... not.

Hmm as others said, some varieties of basil are just not as flavorful as others . . . however, I don't know if I agree with the advice to cut back on the water if your plant is in a container-- although a little hardship does generally help herbs develop more flavor, basil gets very thirsty, very quickly when it's in a container, and I have found that once my container basil plants reach maturity I have to water them nearly every day to keep them from wilting rather pitifully.

It is very important, as others have said, to pinch back the blooms when they start (although you can let one or two stalks go if you feel like it-- just not the whole plant).

If you do get a new plant, I would suggest potting it in a mix of half potting soil and half peat moss, making sure it's in full sun for at least a good third of the day, and I WOULD recommend adding a little bit of fertilizer-- you can get organic fertilizer-- there are plenty of nice organic plant food sources out there, and many plant shops even carry organic plant food specifically designed for herbs.

Good luck! At least it's not dead yet, which shows you're a better gardener than you thought!

Oh my gawd, I had a horrible image of Christopher Lyden reading that post with his snotty Cambridge accent and I almost choked. Thank goodness they'll have a real live actor read it, because I just can't see him with any emotions whatsoever. And that's after years of watching him on Boston PBS and listening to him on NPR local radio as well.

The baail probably has lost it's edge due to the huge amount of water it's received recently. Too much rain swells the leaves and they tend to lose their potency. Mine is also a lot less potent than it was when it was dryer out. But aren't the plants gorgeous? Huge leaves! So green and vibrant. So they taste like grass, they LOOK so pretty.

It's probably the same reason that those equal fake-sugar pills taste like...well, I don't know. Something vile and sugary but also SOUR.

lis and Alice -

Reunion was cool, but not as cool as it would have been if Alice had been there. And our classe (mine and Alice's) lurked silently in a corner and watched enviously while your class rocked it out with '76, wondering why we were so lame. The we wached away the lameness with a few cases of beer. But realizing we were in Freeman brought all the lamness back...

I am so glad you are happier in Jersey. And Henry will love camp (and you will love the peace and quiet) My son Owen, 4 ("and a HALF, Mommy!" he would yell) is starting camp in July - I can't wait. Now if it were only somehow acceptable to lock my 20 month old in the closet so I could have some peace and quiet myself... Hey! I have a closet with a window! Is that ok? Hmmm... maybe not...

Also, on the basil, harvest early in the day. Herbs tend to be more flavorful in the morning.

So much gardening advice from one little question... welcome to home ownership.

I have never heard of this blogsday - very cool. Will tune in. Now I must go find some lemon soap.

Looking forward to the weed/not weed flickr set. I will be following it closely. i was recently instructed in the many varieties of hosta. Who knew?

I killed my basil - so I have no clue.

I'll be listening for your post on the radio!

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